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School retention plan: AEU calls for evidence

23 Jan, 2012 03:00 AM
MORE evidence of educational benefits for students needs to be shown to justify any change in the Tasmanian schooling system that would see high schools extended to year 12, according to the Australian Education Union.

Outgoing AEU Tasmania branch president Leanne Wright said she was wary of any change to improve retention rates as there was no evidence to prove that it would be successful.

She said the union had asked for evidence from the Liberals last year and was still waiting.

``What evidence do we have that this change will have any benefit for students in schools?'' Ms Wright said.

``There's no evidence. It's a waste of our taxpayers' money, it's an offence that our children are experimented on like this, such as what happened with Tasmania Tomorrow.''

She said politicians had a habit of trying to find simple solutions to complex problems and schemes like Tasmania Tomorrow was proof that such things did not work.

Ms Wright said the focus should be on how learning programs could be improved to cater for the independent needs of students.

Opposition education spokesman Michael Ferguson said Liberal education policy was about increasing year 12 completion rates which were the worst in the country.

He said school capacity figures showed that there was under-utilised space in many high schools, particularly those in regional areas, where the policy would be rolled out first.

Figures worked out by The Examiner, and published yesterday, show a small number of regional schools could accommodate an extension.

Mr Ferguson said colleges would not close.

``As is always the case we will provide full costings prior to the next election and after the current consultation stage with school communities which we have commenced,'' he said.

Acting Education Minister Brian Wightman said it was flawed policy, that 18 of 30 schools would need to be rebuilt and the funding set aside was not enough.

``Retention is very important . . . and we will continue to work to improve retention in Tasmania,'' he said.

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Just when it becomes tempting to vote for the Libs they come up with a hare-brained scheme like this. Have they done the costings? What will it cost to hire specialist pre-tertiary teachers at high schools? How much subject choice will there be? What will be the size of classes? What will be the economic impact on the Colleges.

The reason why we have the College set up is because Tasmania is a small State. The Colleges provide an efficient economy of scale and a wide choice of subjects and high quality teaching. It also provides students with a fresh start to the critical senior years.

Posted by Peter Smith, 23/01/2012 6:06:33 AM, on The Examiner
Get with the times Tasmania. Everyone else has schools to year 12.
Posted by Yvette, 23/01/2012 7:24:39 AM, on The Examiner
There must be some merit in this proposal in the amount of discussion that has been generated. I fully support the idea as it is already working in the private schools in Tasmania. Tasmania Tomorrow was a total ballsup for Labour and the Liberals have the vision to increase retention rate at schools. Give it a go, what have you to lose - 10 years of mismanagement by Labour!
Posted by konindy, 23/01/2012 7:27:40 AM, on The Examiner
Teachers our golden breed! Again showing their usual arrogance . What is more to the point ,the reality is that the majority of teachers are incapable of teaching at year twelve standards .
Posted by barneyboy, 23/01/2012 7:42:20 AM, on The Examiner
Peter Smith at 7.06am is exactly right.

The only thing I would add is that to improve both retention and completion rates there needs to be an attitudinal change towards going to school until the completion of year 12. That change must start with the parents of these children. If the parents valued education so would their children!

Posted by David Carter, 23/01/2012 8:07:52 AM, on The Examiner
Here's an idea for the AEU to consider. Why don't teachers only have 4 weeks annual leave like the rest of us. The rest of us seem to cope with early starts, late finishes, taking work home and the stress and worry of running / working in a business. Perhaps the AEU and their members need to join the rest of us in the real world.
Posted by Hard Done By, 23/01/2012 9:13:57 AM, on The Examiner
Tas retention is the worst in Australia. Following what the successful states do (like high schools going to year 12) would be a very obvious start.
Posted by ScottF, 23/01/2012 11:20:49 AM, on The Examiner
Why worry about sending 'kids' on to grade 12, they can all work in the dairy industry , forestry or even get ahead further by becoming a Tasmanian politician!
Posted by anon like ewe, 23/01/2012 2:18:05 PM, on The Examiner
True populist politics from the libs. If parents are not capable of letting their kids go to a college in another town, how are their kids ever going to leave these dead end towns let alone go to university or find work?

As for teacher bashing, have you ever taught kids who don't want to learn? Teachers should get a massive pay increase and deserve all the holidays they get after all the kids also need holidays. How about letting the teachers at high schools and colleges work together to get the best solution instead of a whole lot of non-teachers, it all smells like Tasmania Tomorrow.


Posted by anon like a cow, 23/01/2012 2:42:57 PM, on The Examiner
Barney boy - you could learn a lot from David Carter. Next time - think before you speak and if that's not possible - ask a teacher!
Posted by Margaret, 23/01/2012 2:47:29 PM, on The Examiner
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