THEY have become a sad and pitiful lot really.
Just when there is some glimmer of peace in the forest wars that have plagued a generation of Tasmanians, the old warmongers can't help themselves.
Bob Brown, Christine Milne, Peg Putt and Kim Booth are locked in the past.
They are forest tragics searching for relevance - how dare the young conservation turks like Vica Bayley, Phil Pullinger and Nick McKim make decisions without the approval of their green elders.
If anybody out there had any doubts about their motives for ending this dispute, they handed it to us on a platter this week.
The old dark Greens are so used to a forestry campaign of immediately locking up new forests and then moving the fight on to another coupe.
How dare the Legislative Council insist on durability clauses where environmentalists and the timber industry actually have to get together and achieve FSC accreditation, which we are told the global market demands.
How dare they insist on guaranteed volumes of saw logs and speciality timbers to sustain industry.
Far from being the "wreckers" the Legislative Council has actually put it straight back to the environmentalists to be part of the eventual solution, or else.
The old dark Greens are now the "wreckers" because without a Tasmanian forestry fight their political reason for existing is tenuous.
State MPs Mr McKim, Tim Morris, Cassy O'Connor and Paul O'Halloran and environmental NGOs accepted the compromises and accepted the challenges - Dr Brown, Senator Milne, Ms Putt and Mr Booth planted their heads firmly in the leaf litter screaming "nah, nah, nah, nah - I can't hear you".
The new forestry agreement isn't perfect but it is a compromise that can work.
Tasmanians are simply sick and tired of the struggle.
It remains a disgrace that groups like Markets for Change, led by Ms Putt, were allowed to poison our international markets in pursuit of more forest lock- ups.
Unfortunately the damage has been done despite Tasmanian forests, that have been logged for generations, being nominated for World Heritage.
This week's agreement is the will of the Parliament and has federal support.
It was a major victory for Premier Lara Giddings and a tactical success for Mr McKim.
It is now clear that Labor and the Greens will go to the March state election hand-in-hand hoping to gain the 13 seats required to govern.
The Liberals have a tough task ahead to win 13 seats outright.
By next March the forestry agreement could be well advanced and electorally painful for the Liberals to unravel.
Their best chance actually lies with those old dark Greens.
If Bob Brown and Co. can convince the radical fringe groups to keep protesting and disrupting the peace deal then it makes it much easier for Will Hodgman to say the deal is a failure that needs correcting.