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Pulp mill debate cut short

06 Nov, 2009 06:27 AM
DEBATE was cut short in Parliament last night over an amendment to Tasmania's pulp mill legislation designed to cover land use permits, which ran out two months ago.

Greens leader Nick McKim reacted angrily to Planning Minister David Llewellyn's move to declare the amendment an "urgent bill" after three hours - gagging any further debate.

Mr Llewellyn claimed that Mr McKim had goaded him into the declaration when he overheard the Greens leader bragging that he would keep the Government in the house until six the next morning if necessary to properly debate the amendment.

There were scenes reminiscent of two years ago when the pulp mill bill itself was rushed through late at night by then premier Paul Lennon.

Government and Liberal Party MPs again used their numbers to force through the amendment.

"You've done it again - you have guillotined debate, you are collaborating to get this through, you are riding roughshod over democracy in this state," Mr McKim shouted across the chamber at Mr Llewellyn.

The Government and Liberals also rejected four amendments that the Greens tried to push through to give more information to the bill.

Earlier Mr Llewellyn told the house that the amendment was necessary to clarify uncertainty over whether lapsed permits for Gunns Ltd to go ahead with work at the proposed Bell Bay pulp mill site were necessary.

Mr Llewellyn said that despite the land use permits running out, it had been presumed that the Pulp Mill Assessment Bill would override the permits.

But Mr Llewellyn said that Environment Protection Authority director Warren Jones had become concerned that because the bill did not include a date for work to start or end, uncertainty had arisen about the permits.

Mr Jones sought advice from Solicitor-General Leigh Sealy and then advised Mr Llewellyn's department secretary Kim Evans.

Mr Llewellyn said that the advice was that the matter could be clarified either by amending the bill or by arguing it in court.

Mr Llewellyn would not divulge the details of the Solicitor- General's advice.

He also refused give an opinion on whether Gunns was acting illegally if it had people working at the Bell Bay site after the original land use permits lapsed at the end of August.

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All this proves is that we have in effect a one party state, the Labour Party with their rubber stamp called the Liberal party and four people willing to argue but without any say, the Green Party
Posted by max, 6/11/2009 6:54:31 AM, on The Examiner
'Debate' about the mill? What was the point? We all know that the Lib/Labs were hell bent on passing this legislation ... any sort of debate was pointless. David Bartlett has blatantly lied about his 'line in the sand' and subsequently, the people of Tasmania are not in a position to accept anything he says, ever again, on face value. Because it means NOTHING. The Lib/Labs have put the interests of a private company well above the fears and concerns of the Tasmanian community. Bring on March elections please!
Posted by Leah, 6/11/2009 8:44:41 AM, on The Examiner
Come the revolution..... Everything will change. Vote well in the next state election. If you don't vote properly you can't have a whinge. That' the rule!
Posted by iReckon, 6/11/2009 8:45:13 AM, on The Examiner
it's called democracy, Max. Hopefully at the next election the greens will continue their recent run & lose even more seats
Posted by Alan Allcock, 6/11/2009 8:52:12 AM, on The Examiner
This reminds me why I vowed never to vote for anyone who supported the pulp mill aprovals act. Labour and Liberal are the same, they're just not interested in democracy
Posted by tassiejohn, 6/11/2009 9:11:04 AM, on The Examiner
Max is dead right - we have a one party State. You can call it the Labour/Lib Accord but really it should be the Gunns Party, bought and paid for.
Posted by Keith, 6/11/2009 9:34:38 AM, on The Examiner
max is wrong .keith is wrong. tas has always been run by one party . the hydro party and as usual they should make mega dollars out of any pulp mill , water bills electricity bills .remember the beauty of lake pedder in the days bygone or the pristine port dalrymple prior to the polluters that destroyed bell bay rio ,bhp . big revenue there for the ruling party . as for the goverment you voted these losers in so it is your fault , so if there is no democracy anywhere in tas it is just like the rest of this planet just full of greed and when the island turns into a desert because you polluted it , dammed it or pulped it and you would like to sit under a real authentic tree and drink clean water maybe all your politicians could move to a more democratic place with trees i suggest fiji or zimbawe. but if all else fails turn the island into the new tasmanian solution just to help the milky bar kid out .that should create jobs and make the government electable and you will all be happy
Posted by such, 6/11/2009 9:37:34 PM, on The Examiner

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