Anne Maree Kibbey, 32, of David St, has pleaded not guilty to the stabbing murder of Penelope Amanda Fluke, 25, of Summerhill, about 10.30pm on August 28 last year in David St, Launceston.

In the third day of the trial before Justice Ewan Crawford, the jury heard a tape of Miss Kibbey's first call to police at 10.50pm and saw a video interview at 3.30am on August 29 and a video walk- through of the unit.

The dogs had been due to go to Melbourne with her estranged husband, David Parker, the day after the alleged murder.

In a video interview played to the court, Miss Kibbey said Mr Parker's sister, Miss Fluke, had come to the door about 10.30pm.

``I said `get away and get out, you know you are not welcome in my house', but she still kept pushing,'' Miss Kibbey said.

``She had said `get out of my way, you bitch, I am going to get the things'.''

``She had her right leg and her torso in and I told her to get away and get out.''

Miss Kibbey said that Miss Fluke had hit her on the arm and she had then grabbed a knife that she kept near the back door and stabbed her.

Miss Kibbey was asked if she was trying to hurt Miss Fluke.

``Not really, I thought if I'd just nick her a bit and then she would go away,'' she said.

Miss Fluke had screamed ``Oh God'' and Miss Kibbey had closed the door.

When asked why she had not offered assistance to Miss Fluke, Miss Kibbey said: ``It was not as though it was murder _ it was only a little nick.''

She said that 10 minutes later she had gone out to look for the silky terrier dogs but had seen no trail of blood. She had then washed her hands.

Miss Kibbey said she had then phoned her mother, thinking ``she would be so angry with me that I lost my temper''.

She had gone down the driveway to make sure that Miss Fluke had gone.

She had not heard or seen Miss Fluke.

Miss Kibbey told police that she did not get on with Miss Fluke, who had said some nasty things to her mother, Beverley Kibbey, five weeks before.

``She didn't like me and I didn't like her,'' Miss Kibbey said.

She had felt shocked that Miss Fluke had come to her unit rather than Mr Parker, who had tentatively arranged to have a meal with her that night.

When asked by police what would have been the worst thing that could have happened if Miss Fluke had come in, Miss Kibbey said: ``She would have picked up the dogs and gone through my house.''

When asked to elaborate, Miss Kibbey said she didn't have a problem about Miss Fluke taking the luggage.

``Was it with the dogs?'' Det.-Sgt Rushton said.

``Yes,'' Miss Kibbey said.

Yesterday the Crown tendered evidence that Miss Kibbey had made 15 phone calls to restaurants and friends trying to reach Mr Parker during the evening.

After the incident with Miss Fluke, Miss Kibbey had made calls to Mr Parker, friend Anita Knight and her mother before calling police at 10.50pm.

When police arrived just after 11pm, she told them that she had just ``nicked'' Miss Fluke and they left, believing that it was a minor domestic incident.

Const. Martin Hudson said Miss Kibbey had told him that Miss Fluke had offered no violence or threats and did not have a weapon.

On the way out of the David St units, police had noticed Miss Fluke with her head in the gutter, her arms tucked by her side and her legs out straight.

In cross- examination, Det-Sgt Ashley Rushton was asked by Crown prosecutor Daryl Coates what Miss Kibbey's reaction had been to his statement, when he returned at 11.27pm, that he had found Miss Fluke.

``She made eye contact with me for a few seconds and put her head down and gently cried,'' Det-Sgt Rushton said.

Mr Coates asked: ``Did she ask how she was?''

Det-Sgt Rushton: ``She did not ask how she was.''

Also yesterday, acting forensic pathologist for Tasmania George Kelsall said ``considerable force'' was used in the stabbing.

However, under questioning from defence counsel Geoff Stephenson, Dr Kelsall agreed that a lunging body might have contributed.

The knife entered Miss Fluke's shoulder to the depth of 13.8cm, severing the subclavian artery.

Other wounds were to the right leg and the back of the head and three ``defensive wounds'' to the right hand, Dr Kelsall said.

Miss Fluke probably would have died even if a doctor had been present, he said.